Well, here we go. As I'm sure you are all aware the Dungeon Keeper games are a pair of RTS's made by Bullfrog for the PC; the games themselves operated on the premise of you being the villain in this fantasy world and, rather than you being the goodly hero and making an overworld kingdom to battle back monsters, you were made to create an underground empire through countless tunnels and rooms built into the underground. You also played host to countless forms of monsters and miscreants who sought to help you take over the land. While these were USPs of the game, the premise itself named you as the master of the dungeons in a typical fantasy RPG. This concept I have issue with, but I'll get to that shortly.

Recently a new game (and an expansion/sequel for said) were released known simply as Dungeons. These games were made by realmforge and published by Kalypso. These games operate on an almost identical premise, you are the Dungeon Lord and you play the part of the man who makes the dungeons for Fantasy RPG heroes. However, rather than being an RTS the Dungeons games are closer to being empire building/simulation games as they seek to simulate how an actual dungeon would function. Rather than waging war as the main mechanic as in Dungeon Keeper your main goal in game play was to create a dungeon that suits the desires of the heroes so they will be pleased, and thus filled with "soul energy" one of the game's resources, and ready to harvest.

I adore both of these games, but I some what prefer Dungeons if only because what drew me to Dungeon Keeper was that I had originally thought it would be done in the way Dungeons is. While Dungeon Keeper is still a favourite series of mine, I do definitely enjoy Dungeons due to it being much closer to the almost identical premise it shares with Dungeon Keeper.

Any other opinions?

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Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and much too rare to die.

Why do I get the feeling that I'm the only strategy game lover here?

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Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and much too rare to die.

I love strategy games. Never played Dungeon Keeper or Dungeons, so I have nothing to say about them. Same with everyone else I guess..?

"Rebelstar:Tactical Command" was the first strategy game I ever played. I loved it.
(It's a GBA game. And Pretty it's Addictive)

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Jame's wooden plank of justice demands blood.

Oh, I recall a friend talking about this game. It sounded like a nice idea, but I never really got into Fantasy RPG.

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"Killing for yourself is murder.
Killing for your country is heroic.
Killing for entertainment is harmless."
~Spec Ops: The Line

"It takes a strong man to deny what's right in front of him."
~Colonel John Konrad, Spec Ops: The Line

If you can get past the extremely bad cash in spin off from the best Final Fantasy dungeon crawler ever- this was a pretty good tower defence game. Speaking of strategy games where you play as the bad guy:



Basically you take the roll of a normal child who has a few friends with disabilities/family/emotional problems, everyone escapes into a fantasy world where they no longer have all the terrible gritty things reality presents to them and instead inherit super powers and control guilds of fantasy characters to fight monsters and find treasure.

As the main character Marche, you decide that reality is the real life and that this fantasy world is a lie people tell themselves, you actively research a method to destroy the world and go about putting it in motion, even when your friends cry and beg you not to destroy the world. He even forces his wheelchair bound brother- who can now walk and run and jump into submission with emotional blackmail about him hogging their parents attention.

He always remains an aloof character with his so called 'guild friends' who he will soon send into oblivion.

The game has some amazing symbolism and ideas.

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Fight the monster, become the monster.

Yeah I would be interested in that second game, but you rather conspicuously didn't tell me what it was called.

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Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and much too rare to die.

Final Fantasty Tactics Advanced.

Also check out Fire Emblem 7.

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Fight the monster, become the monster.

I love strategy games, but I'm really bad at them no matter how much I play. Sins of a Solar Empire kept me interested, because I enjoyed being able to name planets after I take them over.

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"I guess I'm quite used
to not being understood
rather than being understood"
-Björk

There is something amusing about making a universe spanning empire, all of the planets having names like "Dickopolis" and "Dicktopeia".

Yes I did do that one time. No I don't care that it's a very immature thing to do, I thought it was funny.

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Blood for the Blood God! Skulls for the Skull Throne!
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and much too rare to die.